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Dan
22 Sep 2002, 04:37 PM
I think a plugin that takes the place of SETI Spy would be a great idea...yet another icon out of the task bar :D It would do exactly what seti spy does, poll the CLI, and outputs the progress and whatever... like it?

rolith_te
22 Sep 2002, 04:38 PM
you, my friend, are a genius... i want this!!! *drools* i want this very badly...

could we make it combadible with networks? where you could check multupl comptuers? i run 3 copys of seti on three differnt comptuers... would be aweosme if it could check all three...

cavemonkey50
22 Sep 2002, 04:47 PM
really good idea!!! (y) (trillian)

SnakeAnarchy
22 Sep 2002, 04:48 PM
yeah this would be cool

rolith_te
22 Sep 2002, 04:48 PM
I'm guessing none of us four a re C programers

Jeff & Lana
22 Sep 2002, 05:53 PM
Sounds like a great add on! Let me know if you need any beta testers to help iron out the bugs. I am not really into programming, but I would be more than happy to offer some suggestions on what to add.
By the way, in case you haven't heard, there is a new version of SETI Spy available. You can check out what was changed or added here:

http://pages.tca.net/roelof/setispy/history.htm

Perhaps by looking at what was added, it could give some additional ideas on what to include in the plugin.
Perhaps even have the ability to poll the client and get the stats remotely? Would be neat to not only be able to see your stats, but poll people on your contact list to see how their machines are doing as well.

jamjam
22 Sep 2002, 06:16 PM
I am all for this plugin! Great idea . . .also we need a Team Starfire skin for Trillian Pro.

Jammy

Edit >>> anybody know Roelof?


Originally posted by CrazyMofo
I think a plugin that takes the place of SETI Spy would be a great idea...yet another icon out of the task bar :D It would do exactly what seti spy does, poll the CLI, and outputs the progress and whatever... like it?

jamjam
22 Sep 2002, 06:19 PM
That is another thing >>> compatibilty with SetiWatch to monitor boxes on a home network.

Jammy


Originally posted by rolith_te
you, my friend, are a genius... i want this!!! *drools* i want this very badly...

could we make it combadible with networks? where you could check multupl comptuers? i run 3 copys of seti on three differnt comptuers... would be aweosme if it could check all three...

Jeff & Lana
22 Sep 2002, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by jamjam
Edit >>> anybody know Roelof?

I have talked with him a few times when I was having trouble with SETI Spy not wanting to find my rank in the team due to the & in my seti name.

jamjam
22 Sep 2002, 06:39 PM
Sorry fellow team mate but I meant collaborated with him. I too have spoke with him both at my old forum where he was a member and at BBR.

Jammy


Originally posted by Jeff & Lana
I have talked with him a few times when I was having trouble with SETI Spy not wanting to find my rank in the team due to the & in my seti name.

OneBarG
22 Sep 2002, 07:23 PM
I was thinking about writing a Seti at home plugin but I don't really have enough free time for non-school programming lately. I was thinking more along the lines of it checking your user stats and putting it in your profile or in messages (like my sig), but accessing the *.sah files to get status reports would be great, too.

If no one does it before then I'll do it when I have a nice break (December probably) and not much else to worry about.

Jeff & Lana
24 Sep 2002, 06:53 AM
Has anyone taken a look at the feature list for the latest version of SETI Spy and thought of what they would like added in if there were a S@H plugin made? I really like the rank in team feature of the new SETI Spy as well as the rank in all teams option. For me, that would be one of the features I would really like to be added in.

typobox43
24 Sep 2002, 03:58 PM
/me drools

Great idea!! Someone needs to do this ;)

Dan
24 Sep 2002, 07:09 PM
Wow, I was actually expecting "double post, go here (http://www.somewhere.com), thread locked" (LMAO)

Unfortunately I'm not a C programmer, so we would need someone who has a spectacular knowledge of SETI@Home's .sah files and the language...and then we could all test it out :D

Team Starfire skin is a good idea (y)

Jeff & Lana
25 Sep 2002, 05:16 PM
I wonder if the author of SetiSpy would be interested in porting it over? May be worth a quick e-mail over to him.

rolith_te
25 Sep 2002, 05:17 PM
rumor has it Nem's working on it... actualy i've got him programing it... i think he's going to do it...

ballman
25 Sep 2002, 07:59 PM
A Seti plugin would be very cool! I only wish I had the skills to create one myself. Alas, I'll have to wait for one of you smart folks to whip one up.

Jeff & Lana
25 Sep 2002, 08:24 PM
I agree. I'm sure one will be along shortly. I sent a message over to the creator of SETI Spy to see if there would be some interest in porting some of the features over. I'll let you know if I get a reply.

jacobms
01 Oct 2002, 05:20 AM
I'm already developing an application for pulling out SETI@home data (which is then accessible like so many other utilities from the systray), but with a twist for notebook users.

So when I decided to buy Trillian I instantly thought of a plug-in for SETI@home (believe it or not I suggested this to a friend 1˝ hours ago without having read this post). Anyway, I'll start looking into coding it.

Yours sincerely,
Jacob

jacobms
01 Oct 2002, 03:42 PM
Hi, so I've been working a bit on making a plugin and it seems quite easy! But I have my doubts about the layout.

Attached to this message is a sample (which only includes two items). The problem is that the fields could potentially be very long ("Last result" should read "Last result returned" and an item like "Average results returned: 0.72 unit(s) per day" would have to be truncated somehow)

I was wondering if it should be redone to have:

Name:
    Jacob Munk-Stander
Last result returned:
    Fri Jul 02 10:51:37 1999

or if I should simply resize the font (but that'd go against the whole skinnable idea).

Comments, anyone?

Yours sincerely,
Jacob

jamjam
01 Oct 2002, 03:56 PM
Hey . . .looks good to me so far!

Jammy

Originally posted by jacobms
Hi, so I've been working a bit on making a plugin and it seems quite easy! But I have my doubts about the layout.

Attached to this message is a sample (which only includes two items). The problem is that the fields could potentially be very long ("Last result" should read "Last result returned" and an item like "Average results returned: 0.72 unit(s) per day" would have to be truncated somehow)

jacobms
01 Oct 2002, 04:20 PM
Thanks, but I'm just afraid the length of the lines will be too long and it'll get cluttered.

Think if you could add/remove the details you want, would this version be better?

Yours sincerely,
Jacob

TrillHunter
01 Oct 2002, 04:31 PM
I definitely prefer the second option, although I personally have no use for this plugin. %-)

However, if the only group is going to be User Settings, you might consider instead making the user name be the group (so you can query multiple computers).
+ Jacob Munk-Stander
Last result returned:
Fri Jul 02 10:51:37 1999
Foo:
Bar
Also, how often will results be returned? If it's multiple times a day, move the time before the date. If it's any amount of time less than a year, remove the year entirely from the line. If it's any time more than 30 minutes or so, remove the seconds from the line.

jacobms
01 Oct 2002, 05:17 PM
To align the text with the icons in the users online list, I created a 16x16 transparent icon, after removing this it is even more compact.

There'll both be a User Statistics and Current Work Unit group.

Regarding the info, it's simply because this is what's returned from SETI, of course it could be changed, but it's simpler this way. Anyhow, it's also up to the speed of the running computer, etc. etc. when the last result was returned.

Anyway, thanks for your help, I think I nailed down the format now :)

Yours sincerely,
Jacob

Jeff & Lana
01 Oct 2002, 07:01 PM
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. If there is anything that I can do to help, feel free to send me a pm.

jacobms
01 Oct 2002, 07:11 PM
Thanks for your reply!

Okay, so I put in static versions of the information I use in the application I've already been working on, and now I'd like to know if anyone can figure out any other information that'd be useful. I've been considering harmonizing the dates/times (eg. estimated/download time is in the same format as registered-on/time-recorded/last-result-returned, but it a'int too easy :/)

All of these will be optional - so you can choose only to show "Results returned", "Progress" and "Estimated completion", if you want to. And I play to implement a progress bar (however I'm going to do that...) either in Current Work Unit or above the two sub-groups.

Another thing could be to include the "Progress" in the name of the group (eg. "SETI@home (24.078%)")

Please tell me if you can figure out any other features. I have a special feature for notebook users that I'll include - when all the the above features have been implemented.

There are no settings and no data is correct yet (well they are for me as I wrote them off manually from my working app *g*), and it is a bit bloated as I haven't removed all the redundant code which I don't use from the sample plugin.

Please reply back with any feedback you might have!

Thanks in advance!

Yours sincerely,
Jacob

PS. Will be heading to bed now - 2.09 AM in Copenhagen, Denmark and I have uni classes tomorrow (and work for that sake), so, tata...

OneBarG
01 Oct 2002, 08:17 PM
Is this pulling info from the user's computer or from the SAH servers? I have 3 computers running the program so if it's only pulling it from the 1 computer that's running the program, it won't be up to date.

Jeff & Lana
01 Oct 2002, 08:26 PM
If you are going to be showing an approx time that the work unit will be finished, are you going to average it out throughout the work unit? If so, are you going to be able to callibrate just like SETI Spy does to get more accurate work unit completion times?

Dan
01 Oct 2002, 08:34 PM
w00t, someone's working on it!!!

Can't wait to see what you can do...I'm looking forward to getting rid of SETI Spy :D

Just make sure to have an option to hide the client...that's a MUST!

Keep up the good work :)

Wr@ithsl@yer
02 Oct 2002, 12:52 AM
Definitely a must have for those people who use Pro and seti@home. I can see the usefullness (on a friend's screen, actually :)).

tmuka
02 Oct 2002, 01:04 AM
i think Nemesis][ could whip this up in a snap :)

i know he's a SETI fan :) http://nemesis2.qx.net/software-setipos.php

jacobms
02 Oct 2002, 03:32 AM
Okay, I just woke up and already a couple of replies! Great!

To take them one by one:

OneBarG: it is taking the information from the user's computer. I don't have any specs on the SAH server, but if you have a link for specs on it, I'll definitely try and implement it.

Jeff & Lana: I'm not sure what you mean (perhaps because I've never used SETI Spy), but every 60 seconds it'll reload the SETI@home data from the user's data files (until I implement the above-mentioned) and recalibrate the estimated time. Is that precise enough, or how does SETI Spy do it? (side note: maybe I should download it... :))

CrazyMofo: The feature I'm working on for laptops is based on the command line version (the feature: when the laptop goes on battery it'll automatically shut down SETI@home to avoid using all of your battery, and vice versa when it returns on AC) and it won't show the window.

This is of course an optional feature. If you mean I should also remove the systray icon of the "normal" SETI client, that is feasible, but the command line version is so much faster at delivering packages that I'd consider that a better version to use?

Wr@ithsl@yer: Awesome! :)

jacobms
02 Oct 2002, 08:43 AM
Just downloaded SETI Spy and did some investigation, so two follow-up questions (to OneBarG and Jeff & Lana):

OneBarG: If you mean like SETI Spy does - by connecting to the server and gaining the number of returned results, etc. - yes, that'll definitely be possible (just a matter of parsing the HTML output from the HTTP request to the server - of course, this would invalidate the plugin if they ever change the layout of the page, but SETI Spy does the same, so I guess it's okay if we're comparing the plugin to that).

But if you mean polling your three machines independently - eg. so you can see the progress of each one - this would require quite a lot of work :( I could implement some keyboard aliases that returnes data which can be interpreted by the current client...

Example (message to your machine - also running Trillian (eg. requires a separate account on some IM service), also with this plug in installed):

> /getprogress
< Progress: 43.54234231%

etc.

if that'd be useful?

Jeff & Lana: It'll continously (every minute) update the estimated time of completion and that should be quite sufficient for most uses. The SETI Spy solution with all sorts of different machine types, etc. would be out of the scope of at least version 1 and I doubt how useful it is (the estimated time can't take into account that if you start some other intensive task in 20 minutes then SETI CPU usage will drop to 0-2% for a while).

Any feature requests other than those in the DLL I uploaded yesterday? Others I have thought of are:

Team Statistics - like SETI Spy does
Update current user statistics - as requested above
Alias progress, etc. - as explained above
Current progress in section name - eg. "SETI@home (43.341%)"
Harmonizing (and localizing) dates and times

I will commence work later today, so I hope you guys will like it :)

DanB
02 Oct 2002, 09:07 AM
Keep up the great work!

OneBarG
02 Oct 2002, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by jacobms
Just downloaded SETI Spy and did some investigation, so two follow-up questions (to OneBarG and Jeff & Lana):

OneBarG: If you mean like SETI Spy does - by connecting to the server and gaining the number of returned results, etc. - yes, that'll definitely be possible (just a matter of parsing the HTML output from the HTTP request to the server - of course, this would invalidate the plugin if they ever change the layout of the page, but SETI Spy does the same, so I guess it's okay if we're comparing the plugin to that).

But if you mean polling your three machines independently - eg. so you can see the progress of each one - this would require quite a lot of work :( I could implement some keyboard aliases that returnes data which can be interpreted by the current client...

Example (message to your machine - also running Trillian (eg. requires a separate account on some IM service), also with this plug in installed):

> /getprogress
< Progress: 43.54234231%

etc.

if that'd be useful?


I was thinking just getting stats from the server like SetiSpy does (based on what you've said, I've never used it). Getting info from 3 different computers would be a waste of time, IMO. If you can do that, which doesn't seem that difficult, I'll use the plugin. I would like to see a way to stick Seti stats in an away message or profiles, so /getprogress, /getWUcount, /getaveragetime things would be great.

One "way out there" feature request would be for it to be able to get info from SetiQueue so maybe you could give it the address/port of the SetiQueue server and pull client info from that. Not sure what you know about SetiQueue, but the same kind of HTML parsing might be possible.

Personally, it'd be nice to see this as multiple plugins. One for server-side stuff and one for stuff right from the user's computer. I know this plugin won't replace SetiHide for me because I don't run Trillian 24/7, so I'd rather not have that functionality built into the plugin. Just something to consider. Maybe you could make the first plugin that takes plugins?

I'll try out what you've done so far a little later, I'm at school now and we're not supposed to install things on the lab computers.

jamjam
02 Oct 2002, 12:11 PM
I would be satisfied with a plugin that just had my results, CPU time, and time of last returned WU. I too do not run my Trillian Pro 24/7 as I do my boxes but It would be nice to monitor both as I do with Seti Watch.



jammy


Originally posted by OneBarG


Personally, it'd be nice to see this as multiple plugins. One for server-side stuff and one for stuff right from the user's computer. I know this plugin won't replace SetiHide for me because I don't run Trillian 24/7, so I'd rather not have that functionality built into the plugin. Just something to consider. Maybe you could make the first plugin that takes plugins?

I'll try out what you've done so far a little later, I'm at school now and we're not supposed to install things on the lab computers.

Dan
02 Oct 2002, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
CrazyMofo: The feature I'm working on for laptops is based on the command line version (the feature: when the laptop goes on battery it'll automatically shut down SETI@home to avoid using all of your battery, and vice versa when it returns on AC) and it won't show the window.

This is of course an optional feature. If you mean I should also remove the systray icon of the "normal" SETI client, that is feasible, but the command line version is so much faster at delivering packages that I'd consider that a better version to use?

I'm talking about hiding the command line client like SETI Spy does, so the stupid little DOS window doesn't show up all the time...ya dig?

* CrazyMofo slaps himself for saying 'ya dig'

jacobms
02 Oct 2002, 03:38 PM
To: CrazyMofo (who likes to slap himself around... :))

Yes, definitely, this is also what I meant.

To: OneBarG

Regarding SETI Queue - never used it before, and don't know the product, but I'll definitely look into it once I get the basics of this working.

Thanks for your suggestions! I'm working on harmonizing the times as we speak (and I have to convert my C++ code (from my other project) to C as I haven't got the time (nor capability, I think) to do a C++ version of the sample plugin - yet (someone was looking into that, anyway)).

TrillHunter
02 Oct 2002, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
(and I have to convert my C++ code (from my other project) to C as I haven't got the time (nor capability, I think) to do a C++ version of the sample plugin - yet (someone was looking into that, anyway)). There are some small C++ frameworks out there that will at least let you not have to port your code over. The more stable one right now is the one called "pluggie" (don't remember the link right now.. a forum search should find it).

jacobms
02 Oct 2002, 03:55 PM
Ok, cool. But will wait till a complete and stable version is available - porting isn't that bad a job :) (could be worse *g*)

jacobms
02 Oct 2002, 07:51 PM
Those who wish to check out this component, please give me your feedback!

NOTE: currently the SETI@home data files must be located in C:\Program Files\SETI@home\ - sorry, for the inconvenience, will of course be changed in the future.

The entirety of User Statistics has been implemented, but it does not continuously update the statistics - eg. they are only updated on load (of course, this will change soon).

Please check up on SETI Spy or whichever application you use for the data listed in User Statistics (this version does not implement server connect - so please make sure the figures you have yourself are not those retrieved from the server by SETI Spy or whatever, you can check the facts by looking in the *.sah files in your SETI directory).

Also, Team Statistics has been added as a group, but nothing is in it yet, just so you know it :)

Anyway, I won't be doing any development tomorrow - and depending on the mood I'm in Friday, perhaps not there either (hey, it's Friday - time to get some (beer) (beer) (beer) ! :))

To stop spamming this thread with new builds every night, I suggest you send a private message to me with your e-mail address and I'll make sure to provide you with the latest builds (something like a couple of builds a week, nothing big) - if of course you're interested :) If noone signs up, I'll just have to sit here by myself discussing aliens with my laptop...

rolith_te
02 Oct 2002, 08:17 PM
crashes my tirllin and wont let me get into prefences again... thanks

fixxed it...

TrillHunter
02 Oct 2002, 08:17 PM
I don't mind the spamming in this case. It's good to see progress being made on plugins.

jacobms
03 Oct 2002, 04:30 AM
rolith_te:

was it fixed, or? ("fixxed it...") I have the plugin running with no problems on two machines.

Do you have the SETI@home files in C:\Program Files\SETI@home\ ?

Thanks for your feedback!

jamjam
03 Oct 2002, 09:32 AM
Your plugin keeps crashing my box: 1.33@1470 T-Bird, 512 megs pc150 ram, win98 se.

As soon as I go to install the plugin I get this message:

TRILLIAN caused an invalid page fault in
module KERNEL32.DLL at 017f:bff7b9f2.
Registers:
EAX=7fc39e61 CS=017f EIP=bff7b9f2 EFLGS=00010206
EBX=006bfe28 SS=0187 ESP=005c0000 EBP=005c0020
ECX=005c1ddc DS=0187 ESI=00000001 FS=88d7
EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=81da9164 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
53 85 d2 56 57 89 65 e8 75 04 33 c0 eb 54 85 c0
Stack dump:
7fc39e61 00000001 006bfe28 7fc39e61 005c1ddc bffc05b4 bff79250 ffffffff 005c1dec bff7ce23 7fc39e61 00000001 7fc33046 7fc39e61 005c1e30 7fc39ea1

p.s. and my Seti files are located in a folder named "Seti" on both of my boxes.

Jammy

Originally posted by jacobms
Those who wish to check out this component, please give me your feedback!

NOTE: currently the SETI@home data files must be located in C:\Program Files\SETI@home\ - sorry, for the inconvenience, will of course be changed in the future.

jacobms
03 Oct 2002, 09:37 AM
Hence my emphasize on must be located in C:\Program Files\SETI@home\ *g*

Hopefully the next released version (perhaps I'll have a couple of private betas before that) will include an option to set the path yourself. Expect this build by the end of this week or the beginning of the next.

Thanks for trying it out! Hopefully the next version will be to your satisfaction!

beeblebrox87
03 Oct 2002, 01:14 PM
Jamjam: Just hexedit it.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, AWESOME plugin. Can't wait until the next build. Suggestions:
Progress bar
Ability to choose what data is shown (e.g. if somebody only cared about current workunit % and total number of workunits completed, it would only show that).

jamjam
03 Oct 2002, 01:35 PM
hexedit? Never heard that term . . .sorry.

But the present folder name on both of my boxes is also used by Seti Driver, Seti Spy, and Seti Watch. I cannot change the folder name without screwing up the settings on these three programs.

Uh . . .I will just wait . . .

Jammy



Originally posted by beeblebrox87
Jamjam: Just hexedit it.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, AWESOME plugin. Can't wait until the next build. Suggestions:
Progress bar
Ability to choose what data is shown (e.g. if somebody only cared about current workunit % and total number of workunits completed, it would only show that).

beeblebrox87
03 Oct 2002, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by jamjam
hexedit? Never heard that term . . .sorry.

But the present folder name on both of my boxes is also used by Seti Driver, Seti Spy, and Seti Watch. I cannot change the folder name without screwing up the settings on these three programs.

Uh . . .I will just wait . . .

Jammy

*sigh*

On second thought, you dont even need a hexeditor. Just open the seti.dll in notepad and find and replace C:\Program Files\SETI@home\ with whatever your setidir is.

jamjam
03 Oct 2002, 02:40 PM
Gee . . .thanks for that info! I will do it tomorrow morning when I get my other box back from the "beauty parlor", lol.


BTW >>> I am getting it upgraded to an XP 2200 with 256 megs of Geil Ultra PC2700 RAM. It is/was a 1.33@1470 T-Bird.

Jammy


Originally posted by beeblebrox87
*sigh*

On second thought, you dont even need a hexeditor. Just open the seti.dll in notepad and find and replace C:\Program Files\SETI@home\ with whatever your setidir is.

Fubie
03 Oct 2002, 03:46 PM
jacobms, thanks for the great work with the plugin. Unfortunately I keep my seti in a different location so I will wait for you to allow us to specify the location. Thanks for the great work.

Originally posted by beeblebrox87
*sigh*

On second thought, you dont even need a hexeditor. Just open the seti.dll in notepad and find and replace C:\Program Files\SETI@home\ with whatever your setidir is.
LOL tried editing with notepad...bad, very BAD. Below is the error I received.

jamjam
03 Oct 2002, 03:59 PM
Hey fubar . . .how come under my name or near it, it does not say that I am a Pro user also?

Jammy

Trillian Pro User for One Month



Originally posted by Fubie
LOL tried editing with notepad...bad, very BAD. Below is the error I received.

TrillHunter
03 Oct 2002, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by jamjam
how come under my name or near it, it does not say that I am a Pro user also?Go into the members section and look through the menu on the right-hand side for the "Exclusive Forum" section. You'll find your answer there.

Fubie
03 Oct 2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by TrillHunter
Go into the members section and look through the menu on the right-hand side for the "Exclusive Forum" section. You'll find your answer there. LOL, yeah what he said... :) Hey Jammy!

jamjam
03 Oct 2002, 06:28 PM
I clicked on Members in the upper-right and there was no menu on the right-hand sde!

Jammy



Originally posted by TrillHunter
Go into the members section and look through the menu on the right-hand side for the "Exclusive Forum" section. You'll find your answer there.

jamjam
03 Oct 2002, 06:39 PM
Hey fubar! Man . . .after going around in cirecles I finally had to log out and then log back in to find the right place to get my little silver balls.

Jammy

/me says yech . . .



Originally posted by Fubie
LOL, yeah what he said... :) Hey Jammy!

Fubie
03 Oct 2002, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by jamjam
Hey fubar! Man . . .after going around in cirecles...to get my little silver balls.

Jammy

/me says yech . . . Ah but when you have some Pro balls dangling by your name you can feel contented Jammy...

:) :P

jamjam
03 Oct 2002, 08:40 PM
Oh I do . . .but I do!

Jammy



Originally posted by Fubie
Ah but when you have some Pro balls dangling by your name you can feel contented Jammy...

:) :P

Fubie
03 Oct 2002, 09:27 PM
HAHAHA LMAO


Oh man. :)

jacobms
04 Oct 2002, 03:31 AM
beeblebrox87: Thanks! Yup, those two features are in the works - will at least be there in the final version!

DapyDork
04 Oct 2002, 04:09 AM
I would like to encourage you to add /command support. What this would basically do is let you type /seti stats and it would spit out a line to the current active chat window with your current seti stats. maybe a /seti ver command to display the current version of the plugin itself.

Nemesis II is working on a Moo.DLL wrapper so that we can use the IRC Moo.DLL to generate and display system specifications like the moo.mrc script does under mIRC. I would encourage you to look how he configured the command area that let's you define commands. It would really and truly be cool if you could add something similiar so that the lines can be configured according to use preference. I hang out in IRC alot and it would be cool if my anti-idle message were my seti stats. :D

I am really looking forward to this plugin as I will then begin to run seti. :D

jacobms
04 Oct 2002, 04:16 AM
Hi, I've already been thinking of implementing this sort of stuff - and the ability to query other users' SETI stats. I have no knowledge of Moo, but if you could point me in the direction of where I could read more about it, I'll definitely give it a look!

Thanks for your support! Working on it before going to work - to hell with uni *g*

TrillHunter
04 Oct 2002, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by jacobms
Thanks for your support! Working on it before going to work - to hell with uni *g* Hmm.. I've just gotta speak out against this. No hobby should come in the way of real life. I'm probably the last person that should say anything, but I never had a life in the first place. ;)

jacobms
04 Oct 2002, 09:30 AM
lol!

STDestiny
04 Oct 2002, 10:04 AM
I've tried to dl the zip file about 5 times now and every time I got a corrupted zip file. Any chance you could re-upload it?

OneBarG
04 Oct 2002, 12:05 PM
/me is still waiting for an option of where the SAH files are, or an option to not check local files at all...

just for the record

jacobms
04 Oct 2002, 01:10 PM
No worries, I will by the end of the weekend release a version with the option of where the SAH files are... but lemme just enjoy my weekend, a'ight? :)

Dan
04 Oct 2002, 02:13 PM
I....love....this....plugin.... i'm so glad i thought of it :P ;)

What about "Team Statistics"...is that just a place holder for now?

jacobms
05 Oct 2002, 01:40 PM
Team Statistics is a placeholder - will include Team Statistics if the user is associated with a team.

But it'll probably take a while before I get to implement it. Before the end of the weekend, I hope to have a version that'll continously update the data and allow you to set the path to the data files, so it's at least useable. Then I'll work on the progress bar and configuring which items you want to show.

Currently both User Statistics and Current Work Unit are completed (if I can think of more things to put in (like Country and E-mail address to the User Statistics) I'll add them at some stage too :))

Dan
05 Oct 2002, 06:08 PM
There should also be an option to have it start the client on Trillian startup, start it hidden, minimized, yada yada yada....all of the options of SETI Spy in Trillian :D


Again, keep up the good work!

OneBarG
05 Oct 2002, 08:58 PM
Would it be possible to have it pop up a systray popup alert when the userstats change? So if it's checking the server-side list every few minutes, if the stats change from one minute to the next, it says so and maybe gives a link to the userstats webpage.

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 05:40 AM
Uhm, I guess, but won't the stats change no matter what if you have a somewhat large team there's a good chance anyone has delivered a unit in a matter of 15 minutes or how long the check would be set to.

But if it's something people want then I guess that'll feasible :)

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 09:28 AM
Here is a working copy that'll update the info continously. It is possible to set the path to the data files by editing the attached INI file and pointing it to the right path. This INI file must be located in the Trillian configuration directory - usually something like C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Trillian\User Profiles\<profilename>\ (note: this was coded after the consumption of some alcohol, so chances are it's buggy - otherwise, I'm pretty impressed *g* (and scared!!!))

As it seems as though there is no way of updating the title of sections, the very cool feature of showing the progress in the section title is somewhat handicapped at the moment - it is only the percentage when the plugin is loaded that's shown, eg. it's not updated.

I hope CS will fix this - or someone tell me how to do it!

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 10:06 AM
Okay, fixed the above-mentioned problem (quick hacks to circumvent Trillian limitations... dunno if they'll hold up in court *g*)

Anyway, please give feedback! Will start working on customization of which items to show tomorrow or later today.

Fubie
06 Oct 2002, 10:15 AM
jacobms thanks, it actually works for me now. I just edited the seti.ini. Now for my bad news. Once the plugin is installed it shows up on Trillian, but with no information. Everything is blank???

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 11:14 AM
Everything is blank?

What does the section say? Eg. is it called "SETI@home ()" or "SETI@home (12.345%)" (or some other percentage)

A new version is available now (someone stop me...) Now you can customize the items you want shown. Again this is settings in the SETI@home.ini file, which I've added.

The current INI file is my settings and it should be pretty obvious which options are which.

Please tell me if you still experience this with this version (and if any others do?)

What's your Data path set to in the INI file? Could you post a screen shot?

Fubie
06 Oct 2002, 11:32 AM
jacobms it actually helps if I go back and read the posts prior to downloading the file. I didn't put the .ini in the configuration directory. That did it. But I noticed a small bug in the information displayed in the Download Time section. Thanks again for this plugin!! Great work.

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 11:51 AM
Coming to the rescue with a new build :)

I had forgotten to replace the path I'd hardcoded with the new customizable path.

Fubie
06 Oct 2002, 12:13 PM
That did the trick! Damn jacobms I think you are becoming more addicted than I am... :) Thanks again!

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 12:15 PM
Could be an episode of The X-Files - the aliens are forcing me to code, code, code *g*

Will have to work on my project for uni later tonight, though, but will probably do some testing related to command support (eg. /getprogress), etc. tomorrow.

Hope everyone will download this functional version and comment on it. I wonder if I should make a new thread as this one is quite filled up at the mo' *g*

OneBarG
06 Oct 2002, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
Uhm, I guess, but won't the stats change no matter what if you have a somewhat large team there's a good chance anyone has delivered a unit in a matter of 15 minutes or how long the check would be set to.

But if it's something people want then I guess that'll feasible :)
I was thinking just personal stats, since team stats would change so often. This is something that can really only do anything if you're using some serverside info because the user_info.sah file won't change until the computer you're using sends in a WU.

The plugin doesn't mesh well with SetiHide because SetiHide uses a different folder for each WU it processes (1 folder/cached WU). Right now it looks like if I don't have the right folder name typed into the seti@home.ini file (c:\program files\seti cli\wu_cache_##\ with ## being different for every WU), Trillian crashes. I have the right one in there now so I'll wait and see if Trillian is going to crash when this WU finishes and it moves to the next folder in a little over an hour.

Plus SetiHide doesn't keep updated user_info.sah files in that folder, in fact I can't find an up-to-date user_info.sah file anywhere on my computer, which is why I'm looking for server-side info.

Good plugin, just doesn't help me at all. I'll post again (or edit this) and let you know what happens when this WU finishes.

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 01:58 PM
Ok, I get it now. Will include the functionality when I get working on checking the SETI status on the server.

Regarding SetiHide, I'd consider it an enormous task if I'd have to make my app compatible not only with SETI@home - which is a requirement - but also all custom-made applications that do all sorts of tricky stuff :) The use I can see that SetiHide has is that it:

1) hides the SETI@home client (will be implemented in the plugin as well)
2) caches results
3) transfers results in another thread ("speeding up" the process by a maximum of a couple of minutes (depending on networking speed))

the only feature that I see useful for a plugin would be number 1. I mean, it is only a plugin :)

But if others disagree I guess I'll have to look into it!

BTW, I can with quite some certainty tell you that Trillian will crash in an hour :) Call me psychic... I'll probably implement a file-check version at some stage so it doesn't crash Trillian.

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 02:01 PM
PS. What specific features of SetiHide do you use?

OneBarG
06 Oct 2002, 02:28 PM
What I use it for:

The 3 things you mentioned
Shows a nifty graph with WU status
Allows importing/exporting of caches (to floppy or hard/networked drives)
Logs completed WU's

Plus I just like the interface.

I'm not asking you to make it compatible with SetiHide in particular, I'd just like the option for the plugin to not even look for stats on the computer, which I mentioned before I know nothing would work with SetiHide. If you get Serverside stats working I could always put dummy sah files somewhere as long to keep it from crashing, but the plugin doesn't help me if it's not getting serverside stats and showing them somewhere.

mhardy
06 Oct 2002, 02:33 PM
Is this plugin just for the purpose of displaying information, or will it actually anaylze the units, rather then having a seperate program to do it? I was under the impression it would be used to replace site spy and all that crap, but now it seems to just display info.

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 02:38 PM
OneBarG: I could implement the check for file-existence and when the server update stuff is implemented as well it'd probably do what you'd like (but of course, you'd still have to run SetiHide, so that's a bit sad)

mhardy: SETI Spy and others do not do any analyzing - they require the client to perform the calculations (imagine if someone wrote a malicious version of the client that'd send in info about aliens, or whatever, that'd destroy the integrity of the whole project). SETI Spy also just shows information.

Or did I misunderstand your question?

mhardy
06 Oct 2002, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
mhardy: SETI Spy and others do not do any analyzing - they require the client to perform the calculations (imagine if someone wrote a malicious version of the client that'd send in info about aliens, or whatever, that'd destroy the integrity of the whole project). SETI Spy also just shows information.

Or did I misunderstand your question?
No, I think you understood me correctly, but maybe I didn't give enough detail. If I have the plugin running, will units be processsed? Basically what I mean is, does it do the same thing as seti spy? Such as run the command line seti@home, and provide the information on progress?

lol for some reason, I can not word any of this how I want, so I understand if I'm confusing anyone

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 03:13 PM
Hi, at the moment it does not launch SETI by itself. It will do this in coming versions, thereby replacing SETI Spy.

This is my current todo list (in no particular order):

* Systray alert when server user info changes
* File-check for existence of data files
* Command support (eg. /showprogress)
* Query support (from other users - eg. /queryprogress)
* Set away message - with SETI stats
* Team Statistics
* User Statistics (online)
* Running and hiding client
* Progress bar
(* SETI Queue/Hide server support)

written in a basic form so I won't forget what they mean. Please feel free to suggest other features!

The next thing I'll be working on is file-check, command support and the progress bar. Then running/hiding the client and then the stats from the server. I think... maybe I won't do it in that order - depends on my mood :)

OneBarG
06 Oct 2002, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
OneBarG: I could implement the check for file-existence and when the server update stuff is implemented as well it'd probably do what you'd like (but of course, you'd still have to run SetiHide, so that's a bit sad)
Umm, why is having to run a program that does what I want it to do sad?

Originally posted by jacobms
This is my current todo list (in no particular order):

* Systray alert when server user info changes
* File-check for existence of data files
* Command support (eg. /showprogress)
* Query support (from other users - eg. /queryprogress)
* Set away message - with SETI stats
* Team Statistics
* User Statistics (online)
* Running and hiding client
* Progress bar
(* SETI Queue/Hide server support)
Just do us all a favor and make as much of it as possible optional. Some of us will want it to replace all of our Seti programs, but most of us won't want everything. Personally, I just want serverside stats that I'll be able to stick into an outgoing IM/away message and get notification when a new WU has been submitted, and maybe team statistics. Some settings to chose what it does would be great.

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 03:53 PM
Because if you wanted to use the plugin I'm developing, you'd also have to run SetiHide - and well, in some sense you'd be provided with two applications doing the same, and in turn you could survive without my pluging. That's why it's a bit sad :)

OneBarG
06 Oct 2002, 04:02 PM
If I used your plugin to replace SetiHide, I'd need to run Trillian 24/7, which would use up processor power and slow down my WU's. This way I can use your plugin for a little extra stuff when I'm using Trillian, and still let my computer crunch all day.

jacobms
06 Oct 2002, 04:05 PM
I'd give Trillian a bit more credit than that - it uses a minimum of processing power :)

But I see your point and in the end, I hope you'll be able to use it - at least while you're using Trillian :)

OneBarG
06 Oct 2002, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
I'd give Trillian a bit more credit than that - it uses a minimum of processing power :)

But I see your point and in the end, I hope you'll be able to use it - at least while you're using Trillian :)
But something is still more than nothing. I typically don't like running things on my computer when they aren't doing anything useful.

Dan
06 Oct 2002, 09:41 PM
Jeez, I've missed a lot... you've really been coming along with this jacobms!

OneBarG, he's nice enough to be doing all these things for us anyway, don't go demanding things of him like that :)

OneBarG
06 Oct 2002, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by CrazyMofo
Jeez, I've missed a lot... you've really been coming along with this jacobms!

OneBarG, he's nice enough to be doing all these things for us anyway, don't go demanding things of him like that :)
I don't think I'm demanding things per se...if no one told him what they wanted, there wouldn't be a plugin in the first place.

Fubie
07 Oct 2002, 04:48 AM
Originally posted by OneBarG
If I used your plugin to replace SetiHide, I'd need to run Trillian 24/7, which would use up processor power and slow down my WU's. This way I can use your plugin for a little extra stuff when I'm using Trillian, and still let my computer crunch all day. LOL, leaving Trillian on wouldn't noticeably impact your wu crunch times OneBarG, unless you have a slow system or very low memory. I have man programs I leave running continuously while seti crunches away and it does fine. The key here is cpu priority. If they don't demand top priority seti will do fine. Oh and a high FSB. The higher the better.

OneBarG
07 Oct 2002, 05:19 AM
But why would I want to leave Trillian open when I'm not using my computer anyway? I'm not one of those people that leaves an away message on if I go to sleep, school, or away for a week.

And leaving Trillian open (and using it) adds 1 or 2 minutes to my WU times, on average. I know it's not much, but I'm trying to get them out as fast as possible and over a long period of time, the few minutes here and there can add up. It's the difference between doing 100 or 101 WU's in the same amount of time. I don't want to give up that 101st WU when I don't have to.

Fubie
07 Oct 2002, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by OneBarG
But why would I want to leave Trillian open when I'm not using my computer anyway...leaving Trillian open (and using it) adds 1 or 2 minutes to my WU times...I'm trying to get them out as fast as possible and over a long period of time...Then don't worry about Trillian's plugin. Use SetiSpy, SetiHide, or SetiDriver. Hide and Driver for cacheing if you need that. Or setup SetiQueue on the same machine you run your CLI and then have SetiSpy set your CLI to cache off the Queue. I wouldn't worry about the future of this version of Seti for much longer. They are planning on stopping it in the next 2 or 3 months and move on to 2 different projects so we'll all be starting at zero again anyhow.

OneBarG
07 Oct 2002, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Fubie
Then don't worry about Trillian's plugin. Use SetiSpy, SetiHide, or SetiDriver. Hide and Driver for cacheing if you need that. Or setup SetiQueue on the same machine you run your CLI and then have SetiSpy set your CLI to cache off the Queue. I wouldn't worry about the future of this version of Seti for much longer. They are planning on stopping it in the next 2 or 3 months and move on to 2 different projects so we'll all be starting at zero again anyhow.
But there still are features of the plugin that I want to use. Jeez, I'm trying to make suggestions and this is what I get?

jacobms
07 Oct 2002, 03:35 PM
Let's not get carried away - I'm grateful for the suggestions!

Fubie
07 Oct 2002, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by OneBarG
...Jeez, I'm trying to make suggestions and this is what I get? No man I'm not trying to put you down. But unless jacobms wants to fight a major uphill battle his plugin should compliment, not take over from existing Seti add on programs. I believe what he is going for is a reporting plugin to let you know "at a glance" in Trillian how your client is doing. Plus he will have to put a lot of work into this just before it will be useless. Existing seti add ons will not be compatible with the new programs they are coming out with.

Fubie
07 Oct 2002, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
Let's not get carried away - I'm grateful for the suggestions! Not trying to jacobms. Thanks for all the hard work!

jacobms
07 Oct 2002, 05:46 PM
Does anyone know what these new projects will become at SETI? If they config files will be readable client side? Will they utilize XML? Will they be worth running?

Fubie
07 Oct 2002, 05:57 PM
Not really sure. My Seti teams forums are talking about it, but Stanford hasn't released any info to developers yet.

Try here for a start http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/setifuture.html

This is their official information (or lack there of site.

Dan
07 Oct 2002, 09:08 PM
jacobms, is it possible to see the source of the plugin? I'm attempting to learn C/C++, and I just wanted to see how you got things done :)

jacobms
08 Oct 2002, 04:33 AM
I'll have a look at the pages - hope they won't screw up everything as I release the plugin *g*

Regarding the source code, I haven't quite determined if I'll release it or not. There lies quite some work behind this, but maybe I'll make an example plugin that utilizes some of the features here.

Oake
08 Oct 2002, 09:52 AM
Great work J, no much to say. Looks forward to the "final" ... design looks nice, real nice (Jacob du sku for sej :) ..)

Dan
08 Oct 2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
Regarding the source code, I haven't quite determined if I'll release it or not. There lies quite some work behind this, but maybe I'll make an example plugin that utilizes some of the features here.


It's your plugin, you can do whatever you want with it...but it would provide insight into a lot of different things, like file manipulation and stuff.

jacobms
09 Oct 2002, 03:11 AM
True. I will definitely consider it. And well, others could point out memory leaks, etc. Well, I'd have to clean up the code *g* (which'll happen anyway before final release of version 1.0).

I'll release the source code, happy!? *ggg*

jacobms
09 Oct 2002, 03:12 AM
PS. it really does help to give me a guilty conscience :)

The_Skipster
10 Oct 2002, 04:13 PM
Heya,

After reading all these posts, I was wondering if anyone has used the United Devices screen saver (same as SETI, but it is a search for Cancer cure instead of Aliens...)

Something like this plugin would be just as handy for something like that. I am not sure how closely they are related, though...

Marykay
10 Oct 2002, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by The_Skipster
After reading all these posts, I was wondering if anyone has used the United Devices screen saver (same as SETI, but it is a search for Cancer cure instead of Aliens...)
Yep, lots of folks run it. There is a UD Team Trillian (http://www.trillian.cc/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7324) thread... check it out. :)

Dan
10 Oct 2002, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
I'll release the source code, happy!? *ggg*

Woohoo! Thanks :D


/me anxiously anticipated the next version... :rolleyes:

§ol
11 Oct 2002, 11:48 AM
I'm obviously doing something wrong, but none of the downloads in this thread work for me. X-( My Seti@home is in the directory C:/Program Files/Seti@home, as is required, yet whenever I choose to add the plugin in preferences, Trillian still crashes. Tried various things, nothing worked o.O

And of course, since nothing is working, it's going to be something painfully obvious ;)

Oake
11 Oct 2002, 12:01 PM
U've have to put the ini file where u'r trillian ini is located, is it there or have u put a longside the dll file ind the plugin dir?

§ol
11 Oct 2002, 12:04 PM
I'm not running XP, so my folder scheme isn't quite the same, but the .dll is in c:/Program Files/Trillian/plugins and the .ini in C:/Program Files/Trillian/users/Greg (or whatever username wants to use it, obviously)

Figured that would be the folder that would coincide with the one mentioned.

gophat
11 Oct 2002, 04:07 PM
I'm having the same type of problem. I put the ini file in C:\Program Files\Trillian\Users\default and it freezes trillian and pops out errors. If I remove the ini file and try to run the plugin all the fields are blank, putting the ini file in any other directory other than the mentioned one results in blank fields. So I am asuming that the ini file needs to be in the C:\Program Files\Trillian\Users\default directory but for some reason it is crashing trillian. If anybody has gotten it to work with this directory, please let me know. Also I have my seti program in C:\Program Files\Seti@home so that shouldn't be the problem.

I'm running windows xp pro, and have plenty of free memory and cpu. Any suggestions would be great.

IM me at:
yahoo: gophatx
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aol: (yep you got it) gophatx
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Oake
11 Oct 2002, 05:30 PM
Mine is is in the same directory in trillian, and is working, great. Im a bit blank on the problem. Have you tried to edit the ini file. Maybe setting all values to 0 first (making it show nothing) and then adding them on at a time.
Which "version" are you using?? the last one Jacob has posted?.
I know a never version is very very close, but that doesnt help you much now. :(

gophat
11 Oct 2002, 06:00 PM
downloaded latest version just to be sure, still same problem. Tried setting all values in the ini file to "0" still crashed then tried setting all values to "1" crashed again. Not sure what else to try.

§ol
11 Oct 2002, 07:26 PM
I have the newest version as well, but hadn't tried the .ini file.

Just a random question to see if there might be conflicts (although I wouldn't know why). What plugins does everyone have installed?

Dan
11 Oct 2002, 08:07 PM
Winamp, POP3, Weather, News, SETI@Home, mini-browser, stocks, myMOO (test version)

Oake
12 Oct 2002, 03:27 AM
I have:
Winamp
G-shock
POP3
Seti

jacobms
12 Oct 2002, 06:20 AM
Hmmmmm... this is very strange!

Try doing a search for trillian.ini and put the INI file in the same directory.

I hope I'll have the time to finish a version that'll start and hide SETI automatically by the end of the weekend, but I'm having a hang over right now, so I'm not quite sure it'd be too smart to start coding at the mo'...

§ol
12 Oct 2002, 11:11 AM
Tried copying the file into all three directories where I have a trillian.ini file (profiles/Greg, profiles/global, and just the plain trillian directory).

It crashed while in Greg, and just had nothing listed while in global, and plain trillian.

As for the other plugins, the only ones listed that I don't have are MyMOO and the shaking one, so given that you two don't share one of those and both still work, it's not a side effect of another, unless it's one of the ones I have making it NOT work.

So, with that in mind, anyone have it working with Clipboard, My Stuff, World Clock, or the message splitter?

gophat
12 Oct 2002, 12:31 PM
I GOT IT TO WORK. YA. Went into trillian setting and went to profiles option, changed name from default to Eddie and changed location to Documents and Settings. Restarted trillian and closed before going through setup. Copied files from C:/Program Files/Trillian/Users/default to the documents and settings folder. I also turned off all of my other plugins b4 running the seti plugin, but turned them all back on after and works great now.

§ol
12 Oct 2002, 12:46 PM
*Sighs* Now I'm starting to feel worse o.O

Okay, I tried turning off all other plugins, no dice. I redownloaded the newest version of seti, no dice. I don't have a Documents and Settings folder, since I use Windows 98 SE, but I went ahead and MADE one, since that worked for the last person. I've had a profile of mine running the whole time.

Here's my system specs:

Pentium III 933
Rage Fury Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro video card
Sound Blaster Live! X-Gamer sound card
512 MB RAM (although one of the chips has an error, I'm still not nearing full capacity)
Don't know what else would be much use to you about my system, feel free to ask.

Sidenote: I'm running Zone Alarm, but both Trillian and Seti are set to run fine through it, and turning it off didn't help when trying to run the plugin.

gophat
12 Oct 2002, 01:25 PM
SOL, have you been running seti in the past or did you just start now. That may be another problem. If you just started running seti for this plugin you may need to wait until atleast 1 unit is complete.

§ol
12 Oct 2002, 01:57 PM
333 units turned in so far ;)

gophat
12 Oct 2002, 02:22 PM
Just an idea. Make sure that the system and user (your login) have full permissions on the trillian user directory (where the ini file goes). Thats the only difference I've seen between the directories. Oh and cross your fingers too.

§ol
12 Oct 2002, 02:33 PM
Oh, I'm more than appreciative for suggestions.

Unsure what you mean by full permissions. I'm the only profile on this computer using Trillian, so I should have access to everything. The only thing along those lines though would be if I were using XP, with the different user accounts for windows. There's only one account in Trillian and one account in Windows on this computer, so it shouldn't be an issue.

Keep firing. Maybe we'll hit on something :)

gophat
12 Oct 2002, 02:48 PM
If you go to the folder that you put the seti.ini file in and right click the folder and go to properties then the security tab there should be a list of group or user names. make sure that both "SYSTEM" and "ComputerName/User" have full permissions on the folder. Meaning that the full control box should be checked.

§ol
12 Oct 2002, 03:23 PM
I only have a 'General' tab. No security tab. I think the fact that I only have one profile would make it so that wouldn't be an issue.

gophat
13 Oct 2002, 12:23 PM
I know that this plugin is close to completion so maybe this idea can be implemented into a later version. It would be great to be able to track the progress of seti@home on more than one pc on a home network. And where it now says "SETI@home (90%)" It would be able to be changed to say something like "Office SETI@home (90%)".

jacobms
13 Oct 2002, 04:59 PM
First of all, sorry for not delivering the promised version that'll start SETI@home automatically, but I'd forgotten a dinner I had been invited to, so my Sunday pretty much ended up being spent on trying to wake up after another night of having been drunk, and convincing myself that it'd be a good idea to go to the dinner - which I of course went to, and that's why the version isn't available yet.

Anyway, I hope it'll be available in the next few days (should be! I've already implemented it before, so how hard can it be? *g*)

Regarding other machines, I'm awaiting what the SETI@home project will bring in the future before I implement a gazillion features, 'cause I'd like to know that my hours spent don't just end up having to be redone in a matter of months :(

Fubie
14 Oct 2002, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
First of all, sorry for not delivering the promised version that'll start SETI@home automatically, but I'd forgotten a dinner I had been invited to, so my Sunday pretty much ended up being spent on trying to wake up after another night of having been drunk, and convincing myself that it'd be a good idea to go to the dinner - which I of course went to, and that's why the version isn't available yet.

Anyway, I hope it'll be available in the next few days (should be! I've already implemented it before, so how hard can it be? *g*)

Regarding other machines, I'm awaiting what the SETI@home project will bring in the future before I implement a gazillion features, 'cause I'd like to know that my hours spent don't just end up having to be redone in a matter of months :( I really appreciate your hard work put in here! As for the wait, who knows. Stanford doesn't have a good rep for putting info out before they impliment. LOL we've had all types of trouble with SetiSpy (and other programs I'm sure) when they all of the sudden decide to change stats page layouts.

Keep up the great work.

Dan
14 Oct 2002, 08:55 PM
This rule applies to everyone but me ;): Real life before the net

dotcomguy
16 Oct 2002, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by Marykay
Yep, lots of folks run it. There is a UD Team Trillian (http://www.trillian.cc/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7324) thread... check it out. :)
Not only that, but we have forums :D
http://www.denny.daugherty.name/teamtrillian/YaBB.cgi

Marykay
16 Oct 2002, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Fubie
Stanford doesn't have a good rep for putting info out before they impliment. LOL we've had all types of trouble with SetiSpy (and other programs I'm sure) when they all of the sudden decide to change stats page layouts.

Psst.... it's UC Berkeley... setiathome . berkeley . edu :)

Fubie
16 Oct 2002, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Marykay
Psst.... it's UC Berkeley... setiathome . berkeley . edu :) LMAO right you are. I seem to be mixing up my institutions of higher learning...and DC projects. :) TY

Jeff & Lana
19 Oct 2002, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Fubie
LMAO right you are. I seem to be mixing up my institutions of higher learning...and DC projects. :) TY

Could happen to anyone, Fubie. Especially with S@H winding down and a chance for a delay with BOINC it's easy to get one's wires crossed.

Dan
24 Oct 2002, 08:05 PM
Any updates on the progress of the plugin? I'm still dying in anticipation...almost dead! :cool:

jacobms
24 Oct 2002, 08:10 PM
Hi, I've just finished doing our single-cycle architecture (multi-cycle, pipelined coming soon!) at uni, so I should be somewhat free this weekend to finish up some more of SETI@home.

Sorry for the lack of updates, extremely busy (moving on the 1st of November, I'm dj'ing (*g* never tried it before, but it's gonna be a blast!) at a Danish club tomorrow, and apart from that there's uni, work and having a life... damn... I need 4-5 hours more per day...

And it's freakin' 3.10 AM here in Denmark... doing playlists for tomorrows gig... damn... oh well :)

tommytyker
02 Dec 2002, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by jacobms
Hi, I've just finished doing our single-cycle architecture (multi-cycle, pipelined coming soon!) at uni, so I should be somewhat free this weekend to finish up some more of SETI@home.

Sorry for the lack of updates, extremely busy (moving on the 1st of November, I'm dj'ing (*g* never tried it before, but it's gonna be a blast!) at a Danish club tomorrow, and apart from that there's uni, work and having a life... damn... I need 4-5 hours more per day...

And it's freakin' 3.10 AM here in Denmark... doing playlists for tomorrows gig... damn... oh well :)

bump -- Still interested. Any progress jacobms?

dbmasters
03 Dec 2002, 08:01 AM
OK, I am an avid Trillian and Seti user, I just joined team starfire (though I am new to the team thing, I think I did) I have many thousand hours and want to get this plugin working. Looking at the ini file I am more than a little confused.

What do I add here:
[SETI@home]
Data path=C:\Program Files\SETI@home\
Name=0
Registered on=0
SETI@home user for=0
Last result returned=0
Average results returned=0
Results returned=1
Average CPU time=0
Total CPU time=0
Time recorded=0
Progress=1
Download time=1
Current CPU time=1
Estimated CPU time left=1
Estimated CPU time=0
Estimated completion=1

I don't recall when I registered, it was a couple years ago...any tips folks?

Los Miedos
03 Dec 2002, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by dbmasters
OK, I am an avid Trillian and Seti user, I just joined team starfire (though I am new to the team thing, I think I did) I have many thousand hours and want to get this plugin working. Looking at the ini file I am more than a little confused.

What do I add here:
[SETI@home]
Data path=C:\Program Files\SETI@home\
Name=0
Registered on=0
SETI@home user for=0
Last result returned=0
Average results returned=0
Results returned=1
Average CPU time=0
Total CPU time=0
Time recorded=0
Progress=1
Download time=1
Current CPU time=1
Estimated CPU time left=1
Estimated CPU time=0
Estimated completion=1

I don't recall when I registered, it was a couple years ago...any tips folks?

That's automatically filled in. All you should need to do is point it to your seti directory, and it will take the info out of the .sah file.

dbmasters
03 Dec 2002, 11:48 AM
Oh, sweet, so it does, I had the ini in the wrong directory. THANKS!

How do I add my Team stats now that I am on a team?

Los Miedos
03 Dec 2002, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by dbmasters
Oh, sweet, so it does, I had the ini in the wrong directory. THANKS!

How do I add my Team stats now that I am on a team?

Can't yet. You'll have to wait for the newer version to come out. It should also be automatic when it does come out though.

dbmasters
03 Dec 2002, 12:08 PM
Cool, thanks for the info. I am guessingmuch of that has been answered in this huge thread, but I didn't find it...only skimming it quickly however.

Thanks again.

Groovy little plugin dudes!

Dan
16 Dec 2002, 05:19 PM
BIG bump

Errrr, whatever happened to this........

Los Miedos
16 Dec 2002, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by CrazyMofo
BIG bump

Errrr, whatever happened to this........

Don't worry, I'm sure the next version will be out soon™

DaWiz
16 Dec 2002, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Los Miedos
Don't worry, I'm sure the next version will be out soon™ Yeah... Holidays -- bad time for software releases... ;)

Dan
18 Dec 2002, 04:50 PM
Actually, I've stopped running SETI in order to run UD, but still, this plugin should come out cool when it'sfinally released :)

I don't really want it to be a has-been either :P

tommytyker
31 Jan 2003, 10:35 AM
bummmp Mr j?(devil)

kayos frawg
29 Mar 2003, 12:49 AM
Has this plugin died? Its been a couple of months, so im guessing yea. Is there any plan to move it over to the BOINC network, or a plan to make another plugin for it?

Jeff & Lana
05 Apr 2003, 01:38 PM
It will be difficult to port over to BOINC as they haven't even come up with a solid way of scoring stats at this time. Plus with the talk about not actually giving credit until the results have been verified, it could be difficult to make sure the plugin works the way it should.
We are currently only beta testing version .18 of the client with no public beta in sight. But as time moves forward, I'm sure some type of plugin could be created depending on what information you would be interested in. One idea would be to be able to keep track of results from various computers that may be running the software. Would be neat to be able to keep an eye on things from a remote location.