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Old 13 Feb 2009, 04:40 PM
Question Does new Trillian Astra support the Chinese chat protocol QQ?
Does new Trillian Astra support the Chinese chat protocol QQ, as it's supported by Pidgin?
Thank you for your inputs.

About QQ: http://www.imqq.com/
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Old 13 Feb 2009, 05:26 PM
It could always support it in the future, provided someone writes a plugin for it.
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Old 14 Feb 2009, 11:41 AM
The idea has been around for years but not yet have such a plugin even been experimented. Sad
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Old 14 Feb 2009, 09:36 PM
That isn't true, Puggs was making a plugin for this, even for Astra, but I think real life was getting in the way. I know he had it so far as that it did at least connect and I think could even send messages.
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Old 15 Feb 2009, 09:33 AM
I don't think I am wrong about the QQ protocol plugin. The fact is that a working QQ plugin does not yet exist despite the fact that huge number of people in China use Tencent QQ network chatting. In fact the new Trillian Astra supports just as few protocols as its predecessor does. I am very much disappointed in this regard. At this point of time, I have concluded that Trillian Astra supports only American IM networks and thus is not international.
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Old 15 Feb 2009, 11:13 AM
Well, Astra supports Facebook Chat, that is a MAJOR improvment.
Beeing able to use that without having to have a browser logged into Facebook is great.
So is the "newsfeed" about things happening in Facebook as well.
Does the other competing product have this (just curious)?
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Old 15 Feb 2009, 02:01 PM
I think that Meebo has Facebook chat again, and am pretty sure that Digsby has it. Not sure about Pidgin though.

Astra also adds MySpace chat.
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Old 15 Feb 2009, 03:29 PM
I think that Lars-Erik was asking if any competitor has QQ abilities.
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Old 15 Feb 2009, 03:48 PM
Ahh, my bad. Misread that, sorry.
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Old 16 Feb 2009, 05:26 AM
You guys are missing the point. The point is being international. Does Astra support Korean chat network, or French or Chinese? The answer to all of them is no.
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Old 16 Feb 2009, 07:34 AM
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The answer to all of them is no.
Only because no one has written a plugin for them yet. Maybe you could start the ball rolling...
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Old 16 Feb 2009, 08:13 AM
CS cannot write plugins for every single chat protocol. I'm sure there are hundreds out ther, and they have to draw the line somewhere. That is why Trillian has the ability for third parties to write plugins.
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Old 16 Feb 2009, 11:22 AM
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You guys are missing the point. The point is being international. Does Astra support Korean chat network, or French or Chinese? The answer to all of them is no.
That makes it not international?

More people use ICQ in Europe than in America.
MSN is huge in Canada

This program is not intentionally not international, it just needs people that live in those countries and speak those languages and use those protocols to write those plugins. It is much easier for them to do it than it would be for CS to do it anyways.
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Old 22 Apr 2009, 10:35 PM
I agree with Palmtree & DimondNRG, with today's what? Economic/manufacturing/businesses/travelling....how can Trillian Astra not yet supporting Chinese QQ? Isn't Trillian is about easy connections to friends & business worldwide? And, really, can you ignore China's population (how many now?)??? & the numbers of people are using QQ?
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Old 22 Apr 2009, 10:50 PM
ah... trillian is great software, but it didn't support QQ There is only a person Puggs trying to make this plugin for trillian. Hope he can making it out soon...
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Old 23 Apr 2009, 02:18 AM
As far as QQ goes, I had been watching it for years, but I have yet to have any interactions with anyone in China yet. Note that your fellow designer here is quite international. :-P I'm from Hong Kong, and most people there uses Windows Live Messenger. I know that QQ pretty much dominated the market in China. And shall Sino-American relationship improves, we may finally see a rise of QQ usage in the US or Europe. (The designated color for QQ is black. Hot. ) And I'm sure we will act on it if there are enough requests for it. But for now, it's up to third-party developers.

Even though we didn't really claim much about being "international" in our Feature Tour, it should be noted that our chat client can display in a variety of languages, as well as transfer and receive characters in Unicode.

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In fact the new Trillian Astra supports just as few protocols as its predecessor does. I am very much disappointed in this regard. At this point of time, I have concluded that Trillian Astra supports only American IM networks and thus is not international.
Um.

Trillian Basic 3.x: AIM, ICQ, WLM, Yahoo!
Trillian Pro 3.x: AIM, ICQ, WLM, Yahoo!, Jabber, Bonjour, IRC

Trillian Astra: AIM, ICQ, WLM, Yahoo!, Google Talk, Jabber/XMPP, Bonjour, IRC, Skype, Facebook, MySpaceIM, Twitter

It's true that most of these networks are developed by American companies, but that does not mean they are amero-centric. In fact, most of these networks have very wide international audiences.
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Does Astra support Korean chat network, or French or Chinese?
Yes, of course, we support the most popular IM networks in most countries:

USA: AIM, Windows Live, Yahoo!
Russia: ICQ
China (Hong Kong): Windows Live, ICQ
China (Mainland): QQ
China (Taiwan): Windows Live, Yahoo!
Australia: Windows Live
UK: Windows Live
Canada: Windows Live
Belgium: Windows Live
Romania: Windows Live
Germany: ICQ
Poland: Gadu-Gadu
Norway: Windows Live, ICQ
France: Windows Live
UAE: Windows Live
Japan: Windows Live, Yahoo!, and SMS
South Korea: Windows Live. And Cyworld for Social Network.
North Korea: Kim Jong Il
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Old 23 Apr 2009, 05:31 AM
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Wait, what? We have that in Trillian?
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Old 23 Apr 2009, 05:40 AM
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Yes, of course, we support the most popular IM networks in most countries:

USA: AIM, Windows Live, Yahoo!
Russia: ICQ
China (Hong Kong): Windows Live, ICQ
China (Mainland): QQ
China (Taiwan): Windows Live, Yahoo!
Australia: Windows Live
UK: Windows Live
Canada: Windows Live
Belgium: Windows Live
Romania: Windows Live
Germany: ICQ
Poland: Gadu-Gadu
Norway: Windows Live, ICQ
France: Windows Live
UAE: Windows Live
Japan: Windows Live, Yahoo!, and SMS
South Korea: Windows Live. And Cyworld for Social Network.
North Korea: Kim Jong Il
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Wait, what? We have that in Trillian?
I think this was just a list of which mediums are the most popular ones in these countries.
I guess Kid wanted to show that most of the mediums on this list are supported by Astra.
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Old 23 Apr 2009, 09:05 AM
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I think this was just a list of which mediums are the most popular ones in these countries.
I guess Kid wanted to show that most of the mediums on this list are supported by Astra.
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Old 24 Apr 2009, 12:53 AM
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(The designated color for QQ is black. Hot. )
I totally think this colour should be black and white. Not only to match the black and white penguin mascot of QQ, but also yin-yang.
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Old 25 Apr 2009, 08:43 AM
I don't think Puggs has worked on this plugin in a long time, his real life got very busy and they had a death in the family. Same with Webstatus.
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Old 02 May 2009, 11:45 AM
is there anyone on astra beside Puggs making the QQ tencent plugin? Because I had almost waiting for his plugin already two or three years. Hope there is other pp going to make this plugin...
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Old 02 May 2009, 12:03 PM
Wiki says Trillian Pro and Trillian Astra supports QQ
Well, Wikipedia says Trillian Pro and Trillian Astra supports QQ via plugins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...saging_clients

Yes,I would like to see Trillian Astra provides QQ support.
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Old 02 May 2009, 05:09 PM
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Well, Wikipedia says Trillian Pro and Trillian Astra supports QQ via plugins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...saging_clients

Yes,I would like to see Trillian Astra provides QQ support.
But it doesn't say what plugin and its a generic stupid chart that is so wrong it is ridiculous. Never trust Wikipedia. Too many idiots in the world with keyboards.

As far as I know, no existing plugin can connect to QQ unless there is some funky way of doing it through XXMP.
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Old 02 May 2009, 05:53 PM
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Never trust Wikipedia. Too many idiots in the world with keyboards.

As far as I know, no existing plugin can connect to QQ unless there is some funky way of doing it through XXMP.
There's a reason many professors will automatically fail students who turn in papers referencing Wikipedia as a source....

Seriously...someone find a better source than Wikipedia that says QQ currently runs on any protocol within the existing Astra or Trillian Pro toolset...Otherwise, it isn't so.

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Old 02 May 2009, 07:09 PM
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There's a reason many professors will automatically fail students who turn in papers referencing Wikipedia as a source....

Seriously...someone find a better source than Wikipedia that says QQ currently runs on any protocol within the existing Astra or Trillian Pro toolset...Otherwise, it isn't so.

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Old 02 May 2009, 10:59 PM
I have used Trillian Astra, tried Pidgin, Digsby, Meebo. Pidgin has all the protocols I need but the interface and skin is not as rich as Trillian Astra. Trillian Astra has everything I need except the QQ protocol.

How difficult is it to add in a QQ protocol?
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Old 03 May 2009, 10:36 AM
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I have used Trillian Astra, tried Pidgin, Digsby, Meebo. Pidgin has all the protocols I need but the interface and skin is not as rich as Trillian Astra. Trillian Astra has everything I need except the QQ protocol.

How difficult is it to add in a QQ protocol?
Only one other person had a desire and the knowledge to do it and now does not really have time to work on it.

If you think it is easy to write medium plugins, then by all means, please go ahead and write it.

CS has pretty much stated they already have too many plugins to maintain and so they probably will not be adding anymore themselves.
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Old 03 May 2009, 12:52 PM
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Never trust Wikipedia. Too many idiots in the world with keyboards.
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There's a reason many professors will automatically fail students who turn in papers referencing Wikipedia as a source....
Wikipedia can quite useful, as long as you keep in mind what it is. I use it fairly often, as an easy way to look up fairly common things. Of course, its not infallible, but compared with a LOT of what you can find on the net these days, its really not bad!

On the other hand, I can understand it not being used as a source for college papers, its not authoritative and using wiki is WAY too easy in writing a paper which should be researched better than that.

One of you guys should go fix the QQ/Trillian reference. After all, that's how Wikipedia is supposed to work - when you find an error, correct it!
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Old 06 Sep 2011, 09:57 PM
I know this is a bit of an old thread, but this is a feature which is holding me back from switching to Trillian. A lot of friends use QQ, and as QQ begins to release its international desktop app, and English versions of its iPhone and Android IM are in the pipeline, it seems like it will become more popular on the international market (depending on how hard Tencant push it).

Have any plugins been developed yet? Or is there any plan to integrate QQ into future versions of Trillian?
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